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hey guys how's it going welcome back to

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the channel thank you so much for

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joining me

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um so here we are part two with mr kayla

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bench so i'm going to bring in

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caleb right now caleb how are you doing

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good how are you guys i'm doing really

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well but we are also joined

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by mr sean rash how are you

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i'm doing really well thanks vinnie uh

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caleb good to see you you too sean

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so we may be joined by andy we may be

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joined by max at some point but the

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reason i wanted to do this is just to

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kind of

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be less of a q a back and forth between

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myself and caleb because um these round

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tables sometimes

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are just more enjoyable not just for us

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but for the audience as well

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so um

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yeah it depends who you have on them

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who are your friends right yeah

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this is the thing like kayla but i

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wanted to not just put the pressure

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everything on you wanted to show you are

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just another another guy like us and you

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have a life it's not just skinwalker

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ranch every single day focus focus focus

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um

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yeah that's kind of where my aim was but

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one thing i wanted to just get out of

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the way and we just talked about this

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off camera was

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there are still people out there that

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have this

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belief that skinwalker is all about tv

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it's acting and there's no science being

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done let's just touch upon that briefly

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you know

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looking back kind of growing up looking

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at a lot of how these real reality tv

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shows are made

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i i get that i um you can see this

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formula that's been used in other shows

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and they've been successful and people

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need to understand too is yeah and we

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get that like they're

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we have this great company that we're

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working with and they're trying to make

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a tv show right and they're trying to

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accommodate

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what we're doing out there on the ranch

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and we're trying to accommodate them and

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we and you know and and that happens um

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but i can assure people you know that

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travis and eric are two brilliant

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scientists and they do take this very

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seriously um and that's again you know

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a lot of this equipment that they're

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using some of this stuff is yes

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we're trying to get the best equipment

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we can

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there is budget uh limitations you know

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it's not like where we just have all

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this money to throw at things you know

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and we're trying to allocate

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um the best equipment we can

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but and

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again with the tv show

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people it's visual

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you know and so we're trying to make

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something look

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cool so people you know do have the

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entertainment but we're trying and we

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are trying to do the real science and

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that's where it's hard and then you know

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again the the ranch it's a rugged area

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it's hard to get certain equipment

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certain areas and things like that so

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yeah i can assure you

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even before the show

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the show was never the main

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focus of the ranch

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that actually just kind of happened to

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fall into place if you will

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so i i was i've been out there since

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2017 the show aired oh gosh what 2019

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2020

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um so

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and eric has been

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continuously uh

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experimenting and researching since 2016

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since he was brought in

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uh so i i can assure you that

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he's he takes this very serious and

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there's a lot of stuff going on that

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people aren't seeing you know we can't i

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don't know if i we touched on this the

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last time we talked but

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uh tom actually went through and did the

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math and

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people are literally seeing less than

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one percent

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of of of the total film footage that's

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been shot

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you know so say you have five cameras

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and they're running 12 hours a day

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uh and they're cutting that down to 45

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feet going almost

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yeah that's incredible you know and and

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you know i can say that the ranch when

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we first got there

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um or i should say when brandon and

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eric

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and and really the starting of the team

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really got to the ranch in 2016

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there was like almost no assets out

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um and just and it's been a continual

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improving the the systems and

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you know it's it's a project and it's

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always evolving

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yeah absolutely and i think i mean just

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does eric and travis and that do they

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get much time to do

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work outside of the ranch on other

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projects or like

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are you aware of the split between where

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their focus is yeah so travis uh helps

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with the investigation as much as he can

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he's obviously got his day job and he's

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you know he lives in alabama he's you

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know he flies in and helps as much as he

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can and that's where eric's

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uh you know he's the principal

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investigator and he lives

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about two and a half hours from the

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ranch himself and he's actually got a

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lot of things set up at his house

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wow um and and so really the two that

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live locally are trav are tom and i and

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we're only you know

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five miles from the ranch

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so a lot of times we're out there

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getting stuff set up for eric and

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and you know one of the things that

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we've talked about

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if there's something going on at the

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ranch and say we see something

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and we start interacting with that how

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did we change the behavior of that

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uh circumstance or whatever it is right

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and so it's we've seen things

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and it's almost like and sometimes we

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get to feeling like we're the ones being

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watched or we're the ones being surveyed

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you know and if and it's like if you've

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ever gone hunting or anything like that

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when you're stalking like you're a deer

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or an elk or something

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if if they know you're there they take

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sure you know and and so it's like if if

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there's something out there and we're

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trying to survey it or or watch it or

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learn from it you know and it and it's

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unaware if you will and we start

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interacting with it

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that changes the whole dynamic so

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all these different ways of looking at

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what we're doing out there

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you know eric's always

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come across something that you thought

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was unaware of your presence

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i had one experience a couple years ago

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where it was just odd and just

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and you know that's the thing is it's

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hard to yeah how do you really tell i

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guess but yeah how do you quantify it

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it's really you know i who knows maybe

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and that's one of the things that's with

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the ranch the longer you're out there

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and i don't know if you guys have heard

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this before but

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the team the longer we're out there the

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more we're convinced that there is some

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kind of intelligence out there

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absolutely that all the time so can i

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ask you this um do you feel like you're

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kind of in this weird

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uh middle ground with you know you have

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you're doing the show

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which kind of

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you know prohibits you from kind of

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giving all info at once or whatever

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because they have their prerogative and

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everything

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do you ever

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but you kind of need the show i would

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imagine to help you continue this study

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financially so you're kind of in this

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back and forth line that you always have

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to play is that accurate

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i i think certain points

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uh obviously the

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some of the financial side from the tv

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show is important

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and it and they are able to reach out to

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some different

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um individuals who i think wouldn't be

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as willing to come out and be involved

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with it if it wasn't there

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sure you know but

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um we are always

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uh doing experiments out there eric is

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updating systems and he's we're trying

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to keep the science as clean as possible

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and and yeah and that and uh we kind of

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parties out there and we're they're

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trying to work together and you know it

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can get complicated at times and

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yeah but it you know it's one of the

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things that i know there are

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frustrations there where

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you know we we want to show the true

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science we want to be as honest as we

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can

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um and

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and but then we also have to show you

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know something that's entertaining we

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have to show something that people will

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enjoy watching you know which is

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unfortunate because what you're doing is

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entertaining by itself

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you know you don't need anything else

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yeah you know and you know and that's

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what's cool is like when we brought the

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tesla coil out for season two you know

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how cool is that you know you know and

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it's very visual which is amazing and

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what people and you gotta have that for

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television you gotta have something very

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visual that catches people's attention

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but with the tesla experiment at the

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triangle you know we have so many things

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happen

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at that specific area

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uh you know and we're trying to see if

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this is just

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aerial phenomenon or if this is

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something that's you know below ground

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too and you know

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i'm sure if you guys watch the show like

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you've you've seen what how we got there

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with the tesla coil and just the

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different things that we were trying to

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do there

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yeah definitely i'm just going to take

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this opportunity so andy caleb caleb

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andy how you doing nice to meet you

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thanks for joining us

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what's up fun so no kelly you're right

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there were so many things um

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almost every episode there was something

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new as far as experiments and testing we

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did touch some on upon some in the

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previous uh interview

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um i think that's some of the real

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standout the electromagnetic anomalies

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the compasses the drilling

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the rockets like

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i'm going to leave it to you to kind of

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go into whichever aspect you want to

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um

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you know with that's one of the things i

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guess i don't i can't gosh i'd have to

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go through and watch the show again just

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kind of see

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what we got in there but you know say

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like take the compasses um

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i've seen

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your old

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woodsman compasses spinning in circles

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you know we were seeing that out there

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um and we're also seeing obviously like

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cell phones and

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and the compass is on those

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showing

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weird directions you know and we're

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seeing multiple devices

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all doing this at the same time

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and it's like the only way of showing

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that is like we're recording it you know

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and we're constantly checking ourselves

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like oh do i have anything on me that

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could really affect this compass

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you know like uh say

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i i have to think about is like the

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hammer on my pistol

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that sometimes a lot of times they have

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magnets inside small magnets in that

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and that could affect

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you know

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right something and so we're always

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constantly going okay

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yeah we're always constantly looking at

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ourselves and going okay is this

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something that we're creating which we

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we admit that like

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we have weird things happen all the time

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but we know that our own equipment is

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emitting stuff and and we try and

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account for that as much as possible

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and that's what's really cool is we see

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so many things happening

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that

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we know it's not our stuff because our

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own equipment can't produce what we're

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seeing

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yeah

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have you guys experienced

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anything remotely close to what

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the original civilian owners

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had reported seeing and experiencing

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while they were there

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um i guess what specifically are you big

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wolves

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well not yet they did have that incident

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um i have found large canine tracks uh

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on the ranch myself

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uh but we we do say you know i can say

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there are wild dogs running out there

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and some of them are pretty big

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um we we have ha i have heard

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um

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different growling and different things

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out on the ranch when i've been out

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there with uh once with the team and

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then by myself

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um

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and but that's again like we you know we

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we know we have cougars we know we have

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uh

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bears that do come down into this area

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we're only 34 30 or 40 miles from the

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mountains in the area that we are and

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bears do come down into this area it's

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not as frequent

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but it does happen

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um i i can think of a couple weeks ago

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one of my highway patrol buddies he got

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a call just out on the highway

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somebody had hit and killed the two

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bears

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and this was a mile from the city of

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roosevelt

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you know so we we do have large

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predators out here but yeah and again i

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can't

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speak for what you know say that

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experience was like say a dire wolf or

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something like that i haven't seen

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anything like that and obviously i'm i

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am kind of open to it because i guess

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half the things i've seen out here i

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can't explain anyways so

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have you read hunt for skinwalker i made

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about halfway through the book

389
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yeah

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so i think that's what anybody's asking

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see any of that stuff

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well i mean we had some crazy things

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happen to them in that place while they

394
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were living there yeah so do you think

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any of this is relevant

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and i'm just gonna go and check on it

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i'll be back in two minutes bear with me

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oh sure yeah do you think any of what

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you're doing is relative to disclosure

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and what we're seeing with like

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uaps and the whole push for transparency

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do you think there's

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how do you fit into that or do you at

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all

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uh i i think yes it has to be okay

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i i i feel confident in saying yes i i

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um i like i said at the end of the

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season too in our kind of round table i

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feel like we've gathered enough evidence

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and are able to show that yes we are

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seeing

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uh phenomenon out here that are matching

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uaps

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um and unknown aircraft like

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the

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how we caught that one uh uap with

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travis and

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yeah on our security on our security

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cameras and that whole story is

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crazy

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what do you think of the public push for

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disclosure how do you think it's

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you know

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what do you think i i

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being law enforcement and being and that

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side of me

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i can see how some information could

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cause a lot of individuals to

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break down

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um i've seen the worst and the best of

431
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people in some of these really intense

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situations

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and depending on the information that

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they're given

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there's people that just can't handle

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getting outside that box in their mind

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if you will

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and so i can see how that could damage

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people's uh ability to comprehend what's

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going on you know

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on the other side of me too is

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i i'm uh i i'm one that believes that

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law enforcement we

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and and just as being men we gotta be as

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truthful and honest in our dealings as

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we can with people

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and they're and you know and that's

448
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where we do have to be careful about

449
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information because you know you got to

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read people in these situations and

451
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but i do think there are things that

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come on with

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i think there's more than enough out

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there there's a lot more

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uh information coming out from

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the governments and military and law

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enforcement you know people are willing

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are

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willing to speak about this kind of

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stuff more and i and i think the ranch

461
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yes

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we've caught things on camera and i

463
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think we've shown things on on the show

464
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as well that we're not making any of

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that up

466
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uh you guys are seeing what we're seeing

467
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real time

468
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yeah there's too much historical

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you know context to that place for that

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even to be

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a question i think personally i mean

472
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since beginning of our time here in this

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country yeah you know oh yeah and it's

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you know there's a couple different ways

475
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that you could look at that um

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one

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i never even really knew of the ranch

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before i was offered to go out there and

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do security in 2017 um

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to tell you the truth i had no idea the

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place existed

482
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i've been in the oil field and i've been

483
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didn't know what you were getting

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but i i've been in the oil field in the

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in the basin for a couple uh for about a

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year and a half

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and i did hear strange stories from guys

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who swore they saw weird things and you

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know it was something i was like oh

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that's cool like

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you know i'm not going to say he's wrong

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i'm you know i

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didn't see what he saw

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i'm sure there might be it might be a

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legitimate explanation for you know and

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i've heard different stories you know

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and but

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and so i knew that this area had had a

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history of oddities if you will

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um and there they weren't so outside

501
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outside what i've heard before so i grew

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up in southeast idaho and we also have a

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reservation

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in that area where i grew up and i heard

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similar stories of such as skin walkers

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and and just different lore like that

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from say a native american viewpoint and

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then i kind of mentioned to vinnie last

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uh last time i was on here

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that i've i've always been intrigued

511
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with like mythology and history and

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that's what i went to school for

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and there's a lot of similarities

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when you start delving into say like

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celtic and nordic mythologies with some

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of the stories that were

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you know

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yeah and it's like and that just means

519
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um magnolia by jacquez vale or something

520
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um it's yeah he talks a lot about that

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stuff

522
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and it makes you think like all these

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people throughout the world throughout

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world history people have talked about

525
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seeing strange phenomenon and

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and then and these stories are coming

527
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from somewhere and something has to have

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happened i i think

529
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where

530
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you have entire cultures who are so

531
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superstitious of say a certain

532
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being or like a skinwalker or or which

533
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sounds awfully a lot like a werewolf to

534
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me from you know

535
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um from european from a european

536
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standpoint yeah and and then you go to

537
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india and i'm sure they have their

538
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stories that are similar or you know

539
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wherever you go you hear similar stories

540
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and so

541
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i i think that there's definitely an

542
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energy or or something there that makes

543
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:12,480
people get get to that point

544
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guys i'm just going to jump in sorry

545
00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:15,120
that i missed that my daughter's a

546
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little bit sick at the moment so my

547
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apologies um just giving you a shout out

548
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:20,960
to aaron desario thank you for the 20

549
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super chat as a former apple employee of

550
00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:25,440
15 years i have to comment on caleb's

551
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:28,000
phone having its lot code bypassed that

552
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,679
is impossible based on current

553
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:32,160
technology if that really happened apple

554
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,480
should be all over that phone now we

555
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touched upon that last time caleb so i'm

556
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happy to touch upon it again because

557
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:40,160
it's incredible yeah and you know and i

558
00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:41,679
expect that and every that's one of the

559
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:44,000
big things that everybody's in in

560
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,840
regards to like my experience out here i

561
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,760
always get comments about my phone

562
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:48,880
um so

563
00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:50,480
like i said last time i do have a new

564
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one

565
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:53,840
and i've already had some pretty neat

566
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:56,320
things happen with it in the last month

567
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:57,679
since i've had it

568
00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:59,039
wow um

569
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:01,679
nothing like what i've seen with my past

570
00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:04,320
phone with passcode but and again this

571
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:06,080
is

572
00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:07,840
specifically with my phone going past

573
00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:10,640
the passcode it wasn't just the passcode

574
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:12,720
on the phone itself it was also

575
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:16,240
bypassing security codes into other apps

576
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:17,679
and things like that and that was one of

577
00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:19,200
the things that really

578
00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:22,080
scared uh specifically travison

579
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,679
because of some of the things that he's

580
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:25,520
involved with

581
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,520
you know and he and and that's national

582
00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:29,360
security implications

583
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,520
uh and i can assure you guys that what

584
00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:33,120
happened with my phone you you guys were

585
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,880
seeing that real time

586
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,559
that was not a phone recording that was

587
00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:38,080
nothing like that that that was

588
00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:39,679
happening real time my phone being

589
00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:41,440
bypassed

590
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:43,280
you know and that happened multiple

591
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:44,480
times

592
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:45,440
um

593
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:47,280
and and we actually did reach out to

594
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,240
apple and i don't know where that went

595
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:52,880
that was you know that kind of went past

596
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:55,039
uh that i know that was eric and travis

597
00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:57,280
speaking with other individuals at apple

598
00:21:00,630 --> 00:20:59,120
specifically about that

599
00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:00,640
um and so

600
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:07,430
hey it looks like it's being looked at

601
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:09,360
already but i think that's the kind of

602
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:11,280
information that people would love to

603
00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:13,360
hear in the future and be touched upon

604
00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:15,600
because yeah

605
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,240
and i i guess one more pivot one more

606
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:20,080
piece to that too is

607
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:22,080
in law enforcement uh i can tell you

608
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:23,679
that our detectives

609
00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:26,720
we're taking cell phones all the time

610
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:29,840
because of evidence um

611
00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:32,159
i can tell you that my the detectives i

612
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,000
work with have told me multiple times

613
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,000
that they'll they'll they'll take these

614
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,000
phones out to the fbi because they do

615
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,159
have capabilities to try and get some

616
00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:41,760
information off these phones but the

617
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:43,280
phones are destroyed in the process

618
00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:44,559
essentially

619
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,600
and so

620
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:47,200
that was one of the big things is all my

621
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:48,559
detectives were like yeah there's no way

622
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,640
you could do that and and even and they

623
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,559
had conversations with individuals who

624
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:54,000
they worked with out in salt lake when

625
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:55,520
they were going through these processes

626
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:56,559
and

627
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,679
so it's

628
00:22:02,390 --> 00:21:59,200
it's one of those things it reminds me

629
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:02,400
of the missile silos

630
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:05,520
you know montana were they robert salas

631
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:07,760
where they came and you know basically

632
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:10,159
manipulated our technology

633
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:11,120
yeah

634
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:12,400
i don't know what i'm saying when i say

635
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:13,760
they but you know

636
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,720
it's for lack of a better term

637
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,039
and yeah you see uavs and the maneuvers

638
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,080
they make and the technology that would

639
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:24,159
have to exist for that to be possible

640
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:25,520
then you look at something like your

641
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:28,400
phone and you're like well of course duh

642
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:30,080
that's probably easy

643
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:31,039
yeah it's

644
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,640
yeah we we kind of have that

645
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:34,240
conversation all the time when we're on

646
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,520
the ranch like

647
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:37,280
yeah they're just toying with us you

648
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:40,559
know or whoever whatever it is you know

649
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:42,400
yeah i was thinking about something real

650
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:44,559
quick um when nids was there they had

651
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,240
that incident where the two individuals

652
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:48,720
were on the on the hill and supposedly

653
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:51,360
saw an opening in the uh

654
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:52,799
in the sky or whatever and something

655
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,799
came out of it right yeah

656
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:56,720
i know i've heard another story i forgot

657
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:58,000
who um

658
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,520
that claimed to have seen something

659
00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:01,120
similar near the ranch as well where

660
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,960
they saw this shattery figure

661
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,720
so i started i was thinking about that

662
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,799
and it makes me wonder if these stories

663
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:08,320
that you hear about people over the

664
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:11,120
world seeing cryptids and these beings

665
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,880
that you know everyone thinks are fake

666
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:15,120
or you know they're not real like the

667
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,440
jersey devil you know for example if

668
00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:19,440
these things actually may be something

669
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,960
that comes out of

670
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:23,039
you know like portals like like that

671
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:24,559
niche reported scene you know what i'm

672
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:27,360
saying because what they saw

673
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,799
would have made me [\h__\h] my pants you

674
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,480
know what i'm saying excuse my language

675
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:31,760
but

676
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:36,480
know in serious seriousness and you hear

677
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:37,760
stories from other people around the

678
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:39,120
world that you know they claim to see

679
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:41,360
these these creatures that people

680
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,480
dismiss

681
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,480
you know it's possible that these things

682
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,480
are appearing in different locations in

683
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,200
that same way that was reported you know

684
00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:50,559
when nids was there

685
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,480
and you know and

686
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:54,559
that makes me think about

687
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:56,080
what people are really getting with

688
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:58,960
skinwalker right now um how many

689
00:24:02,230 --> 00:24:01,039
places on on the earth are really being

690
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:02,240
looked at

691
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,240
in it with the public eye and public

692
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:05,760
attention with

693
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,760
this level of scientists and these

694
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,200
different individuals from these

695
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,600
different backgrounds you know

696
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:14,480
myself with law enforcement uh tom with

697
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,159
his experience on the ranch as the the

698
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:18,240
general manager and he's always out

699
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:19,200
there

700
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:21,279
you know it's a working living ranch we

701
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,279
have cattle out there we we have to run

702
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,440
the water we have we're maintaining that

703
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:28,000
property and tom is out there at all

704
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:30,000
hours of the day especially you know

705
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:31,600
with the water turns during the summer

706
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:32,960
and stuff and

707
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,400
and and bryant and uh brandon and all

708
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,240
these experiences that the all these

709
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,320
individuals are coming out and seeing

710
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:42,000
and we're we're

711
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,919
trying to bring it to the public's

712
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,080
attention as honestly as we can you know

713
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,159
and and show that we've had these crazy

714
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,400
experience uh experiments and these

715
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,320
crazy experiences

716
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:54,320
and you know we're doing something like

717
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,840
shooting these rockets off and we are

718
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:58,480
seeing the ranch react if you will

719
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:01,440
whether that's some natural phenomena

720
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:04,000
that we just can't explain yet or

721
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,320
it's or it is some kind of intelligence

722
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:08,159
that's reacting you know

723
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:10,799
do you ever notice any reaction

724
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:12,840
off of uh playing off of

725
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:15,760
emotion yes um

726
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:17,679
and that's and that's where it's hard

727
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,679
because how do you quantify that

728
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:21,679
how do you kind of prove that you know

729
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,400
if you will it's a personal proof yeah

730
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:26,480
yeah and you know that kind of leads me

731
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:27,840
into

732
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:30,960
it makes me think about an experience um

733
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:32,960
that we've had on the ranch and then the

734
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,279
similar energy that i felt if you will

735
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:38,080
um so a couple years ago i don't know if

736
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:39,360
you guys have heard the story about how

737
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:41,039
tom and i we we came back to the ranch

738
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,080
because we heard there were some people

739
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:44,159
that were potentially trying to come on

740
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:44,960
through

741
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:46,960
online chatter and so we were out there

742
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,279
for three or four nights in a row you

743
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,360
know 12 14 hours

744
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:53,600
and we left to go home for the day get

745
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,960
some sleep before we came back and

746
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:56,880
during that time we were gone we had

747
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:59,520
some devil or satan worshipers come to

748
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,799
the property

749
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,799
go through one of our gates damaged some

750
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,400
property there and then they we know

751
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:06,000
that they performed some kind of

752
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:07,760
ceremony out there

753
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:10,559
and when tom and i came to the ranch

754
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,880
and we found this

755
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:14,799
i know this sounds crazy but the the

756
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:18,320
darkness and the the heaviness like

757
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,000
the word that immediately came to both

758
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,559
our minds was a violation like the ranch

759
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:24,720
had been violated

760
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:26,480
it didn't ask for that it didn't want

761
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,440
that

762
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,600
yeah you know and and

763
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:31,279
when tama and i were out there was night

764
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:32,240
time

765
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,919
dude it was like the crazy one of the

766
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:35,679
craziest things i've ever

767
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:38,000
felt like i could feel that pressure if

768
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:39,760
you will around me

769
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:41,039
wow and

770
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:41,919
um

771
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:44,799
yeah it's just this dark dark energy if

772
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:47,279
you will this dark frequency

773
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,760
just yeah it was real heavy it was

774
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,360
it wasn't good

775
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,679
um and the only other time that i've

776
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:55,600
felt that kind of darkness and that

777
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:57,679
heaviness is on the suicide scenes that

778
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,880
i've uh

779
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,799
unfortunately i've had to go respond to

780
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,480
as a law enforcement officer

781
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,559
and and that kind of is what's hit me

782
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:07,440
this last year in particular i've had

783
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:09,039
three this last year that really stick

784
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:10,720
out in my mind

785
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:13,039
and it hit me one day

786
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,240
this is the same energy this is the same

787
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:18,880
heaviness this is the same

788
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:22,000
just evil that i felt on the ranch that

789
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:23,279
night

790
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,720
and

791
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,720
i i you know that's the only way i can

792
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,720
really explain it you know and it's

793
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:30,480
something like i've said i've put a lot

794
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:32,840
of thought into that

795
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,600
and you know and that was someone else

796
00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:37,600
bringing that to the ranch and and then

797
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:38,799
what do you do

798
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,919
uh my me myself

799
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:45,279
i've i

800
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,600
have my own personal beliefs and i yeah

801
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:49,600
i've gone through and i've

802
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,720
my i am very spiritual i i am religious

803
00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:55,440
i do practice my chosen faith

804
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,720
and i i went and i did some of the the

805
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,720
ordinances and the and the things that i

806
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:02,399
put my faith into

807
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,120
and i and i and i'm i was good i you

808
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:07,440
know it was really powerful experience

809
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,279
and i was able to

810
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:12,000
get that it's really interesting

811
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:14,399
i was able to it's it's

812
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:16,159
you know how our minds just bring stuff

813
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,600
up once you've been through like a

814
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,200
traumatic experience like it just pops

815
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:20,880
up it's like you can't stop it from

816
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:22,080
playing

817
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:23,440
um

818
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,880
the the processes that i chose to do

819
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:28,480
it stopped it

820
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:29,840
it stopped that from happening

821
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,399
immediately it was very powerful

822
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:34,480
um and so it's something that yeah i can

823
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,320
go through and think about it

824
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:38,320
if i go and access that file if you will

825
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,679
it's there

826
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:42,240
but it won't just pop up and replay you

827
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:43,039
know

828
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:45,279
so i've i went through and did some of

829
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:48,000
my own what i do what i believe you know

830
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:49,520
i love hearing that

831
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:51,679
and it's one of those things that i

832
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,960
um

833
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:54,159
you know i am

834
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,760
careful about how i talk about that just

835
00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:58,320
because i get it i you know in today's

836
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,039
world we get it you know there's

837
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,200
yeah things that are hard to talk about

838
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,120
just because people i will just put it

839
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,279
out there that as you know if you think

840
00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:09,919
that negative energy like that exists

841
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,399
and there's evil thick fog

842
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:14,799
let me tell you something there is the

843
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:18,240
exact opposite that exists as well

844
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,240
don't keep working in the one direction

845
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,159
yeah and and that was and that you know

846
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,080
you hit it right there is i went to what

847
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:26,640
i believe i and i guess that's my my

848
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:28,640
thing is i i feel like had enough

849
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:32,000
experiences on and off the ranch i i had

850
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:33,679
some very powerful experiences before i

851
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,559
even went to the ranch that led me to

852
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,159
think that there is that source of light

853
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,559
or that source of good uh and you know

854
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,320
and you know that's not my place to tell

855
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,480
people if they're right or wrong i don't

856
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,240
think that's my place but i'm willing to

857
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,000
have that conversation with people and

858
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,480
you know i i fully believe

859
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:52,720
um you know like what our country was

860
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,799
founded on is you have a right to think

861
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,320
and believe what you want

862
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:58,240
yeah you know and you have a right to

863
00:30:01,190 --> 00:30:00,159
express that

864
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,200
for sure

865
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:02,799
what if what if locations like

866
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:04,320
skinwalker and

867
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:05,600
you know things like that they're

868
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,120
actually

869
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:10,000
like locations on the planet where

870
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,679
you know this phenomenon is actually

871
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:13,360
created by the planet itself you

872
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,720
understand what i'm saying like if you

873
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,159
look at if you look at the planet as a

874
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,640
whole it's an actual living thing

875
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:20,559
and we're a part of that you know so

876
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,760
like you're mentioning about the

877
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,600
energies and how you felt you know when

878
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,919
you walked in on that scene with the

879
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:27,840
with the um you know the people doing

880
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:28,960
the ritual

881
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:30,880
you know it could be something similar

882
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:32,880
to that but on a planet-sized scale and

883
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:35,440
in certain locations it's focused on or

884
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,159
it's saturated enough where

885
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:40,240
things occur that you can't explain you

886
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:41,200
know what i'm saying and it could

887
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:43,200
possibly be from the earth itself

888
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,320
creating this you know phenomenon and

889
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,720
maybe ufos are attracted to these

890
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:50,559
locations because of that energy so

891
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,399
that's where you get the the the you

892
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,320
know the uh the mix of seeing these

893
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,799
objects and also seeing this phenomenon

894
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:57,919
because they understand there's

895
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,840
something going on here maybe they

896
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,919
themselves find it interesting and want

897
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:03,840
to come to see what it's about you know

898
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:05,760
and and that's you know that hits on

899
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,760
kind of how i've answered some questions

900
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,640
before where i say science and religion

901
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:12,399
are kind of doing this you know they

902
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:14,320
they come together if you will

903
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,200
um

904
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:17,600
they're not this opposite you know

905
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:18,720
they're

906
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,000
things and i've and i've had things

907
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,399
happen on and off the ranch again that

908
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,159
it's more easily explained through a

909
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:28,559
scientific means uh one experience if

910
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:31,039
you'll sorry and then another experience

911
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:32,799
that i have it's more spiritual like

912
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:35,840
that uh and and hitting on that it makes

913
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:38,960
me think like i'd love to go through

914
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,799
and say like i've i've had family

915
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,320
members and people visited say like the

916
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:44,399
battlefield of gettysburg or a lot of

917
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,679
these old civil war sites or

918
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:49,120
um

919
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:51,279
the omaha beach

920
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,000
you go to these places and people can

921
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,559
feel this powerful they have this very

922
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:57,919
powerful phys

923
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,360
emotional physical experience

924
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,279
you know and it's like what may have

925
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,279
happened on the ranch say 10 000 years

926
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:07,600
ago that maybe left such a massive

927
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,519
imprint you know that that's something

928
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,440
that we've talked about before

929
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:13,679
you know and i and i i completely agree

930
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:15,200
with you what if there are these areas

931
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:17,120
that how i don't know how they were

932
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:19,760
created or or why there's such an energy

933
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,559
there

934
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,159
what if it's the

935
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:24,240
point of creation at some point was

936
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,039
there

937
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:27,200
and what you're seeing is almost these

938
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:28,480
different

939
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,000
um ingredients

940
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:32,480
mixing around of some sort i don't know

941
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:34,240
that's way out in the left field but you

942
00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:35,440
know and that and you know that's the

943
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:36,799
thing is that's

944
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,350
you know

945
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,200
and and i can tell you that we have the

946
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,519
conversations like this all the time

947
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,279
as a team kind of amongst ourselves call

948
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:51,350
you also got to think about the fact

949
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:53,600
that you know us living on this planet

950
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:55,840
right you know we wake up every day we

951
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,399
you do our normal routine all the time

952
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,399
we don't realize you're actually

953
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,640
all this all the all the energy that the

954
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:04,640
planet emits we're a part of it we're

955
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:06,880
living inside of it you understand so

956
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,960
everything that we experience may be due

957
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:11,039
to all of this energy that the planet is

958
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,080
releasing

959
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,159
that that causes us to

960
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:16,640
maybe behave the way we do or see things

961
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,840
the way we see it you know what i'm

962
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:19,440
saying and it might be different

963
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:20,880
somewhere else you know what i mean

964
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,000
maybe

965
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:24,399
ufos come here or et comes here

966
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:25,760
to see what

967
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,600
what what the planet does to life on

968
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:29,360
this you know on on on this rock you

969
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:31,120
understand what i'm trying to say yeah

970
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,240
um

971
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,399
you're you're making me think of uh uh

972
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,320
something that travis

973
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,000
on this subject uh one of the

974
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,000
conversations that we had travis

975
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,559
actually brought up that um

976
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,679
one of the biggest things that's

977
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:45,519
happened in my lifetime if not the the

978
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,279
biggest 9 11.

979
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:49,840
um they noticed um

980
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:51,679
i'm sure someone in the comments or

981
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:53,039
someone might have more information

982
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:55,039
about this than i do but travis i'm

983
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,240
trying to

984
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:58,080
get this out to you guys as cleanly as i

985
00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:59,039
can

986
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:01,519
travis mentioned that you have

987
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,679
these atomic clocks i believe or these

988
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,360
random number generators yeah i know

989
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:06,799
exactly what you're talking about and

990
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:09,200
these random number generators during

991
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,320
911 and like i think the day after

992
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:15,119
because they something happened to where

993
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:16,240
these

994
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:17,119
uh

995
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:18,720
generators or or these clocks or

996
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:20,560
whatever they were

997
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,159
were acting

998
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:24,159
so outside of what they're supposed to

999
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,359
do

1000
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,520
because of and the theory is

1001
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,679
we as a human collective energy

1002
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,760
collective energy yeah we as a human we

1003
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:33,679
as humans with our collective energy

1004
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:35,200
thank you

1005
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,440
did something to affect that because of

1006
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,280
what happened at 9 11.

1007
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,440
it's measurable yeah these are the ones

1008
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:43,599
in zeros right the generators whether

1009
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,960
it's kind of a

1010
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,480
from what i understand they have these

1011
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:48,639
generators um scattered throughout the

1012
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:50,560
world if i'm not mistaken

1013
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:52,639
and they you know they pick up the

1014
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,639
information from them during

1015
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:56,480
world disasters and stuff like that and

1016
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:58,480
that's where they see these changes

1017
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:00,000
because everybody's going through a

1018
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:02,079
situation and all that energy is

1019
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,680
actually being picked up

1020
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,359
so it's for example like i always use

1021
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,599
this analogy you know or this example is

1022
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,359
like when you love someone right you

1023
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:11,920
have someone that you absolutely adore

1024
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,280
right there with you you feel i i used

1025
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:17,520
uh like a rubber band example like when

1026
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:18,800
you take a rubber band and you just

1027
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:21,200
leave it alone it's it's whole but you

1028
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,880
take that and you stretch it you know

1029
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:24,079
what i'm saying and you start to see

1030
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,079
that everything pulls apart so the same

1031
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:28,400
way with love for example you have that

1032
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:30,079
loved one next to you but when that

1033
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,040
person

1034
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:34,079
distances itself you can actually feel

1035
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:36,480
that energy pulling beautiful you

1036
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,599
understand that being a good one yeah

1037
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,520
and it's when you think about it that

1038
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:44,160
right there shows you that that energy

1039
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,000
whether you although you can't see it's

1040
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,240
just like wind it actually exists in it

1041
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:49,680
you feel it yeah

1042
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,680
i can feel it right now i can yeah you

1043
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,200
know what i'm saying it's absolutely

1044
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:55,920
real so i completely agree that these

1045
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,400
sensors are really actually picking up

1046
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,720
that energy because it's a real thing

1047
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:01,920
it's a real

1048
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:03,040
you know like

1049
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,720
it's not explained which is real you

1050
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,480
know and that's and that and that's one

1051
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,240
of the things like

1052
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:10,240
how can you quantify that how can you

1053
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,680
quantify a feeling

1054
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,599
you know how can you

1055
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:15,839
where the center where are the sensors

1056
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:17,520
yeah exactly we don't need scientific

1057
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:19,040
equipment we are

1058
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,880
we're the biosensors we can actually

1059
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,960
feel it so why do we need okay we just

1060
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:25,200
need to trust yourself when we are the

1061
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,720
computers that know this is real you

1062
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,480
know because if it wasn't then we

1063
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,000
wouldn't have these emotions we wouldn't

1064
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,839
feel what we feel we'd be lifeless

1065
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,280
robots walking around just doing

1066
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:35,359
whatever the hell we're doing yeah we're

1067
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,760
we're such a complicated uh piece of

1068
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:39,359
machinery with you know with all the

1069
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:42,079
stuff going on inside of our bodies and

1070
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,200
you know and that's one of those things

1071
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:45,040
i'm probably going to kill this quote

1072
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,760
but

1073
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,200
it makes me think someone was talking

1074
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,520
about i can't remember who it was

1075
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:51,200
but they said that science is the

1076
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:52,560
explanation of things that are going

1077
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,560
around outside of our bodies and

1078
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,160
religion is what's

1079
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:58,320
how we explain what's going on within

1080
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:59,280
um

1081
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:00,000
and

1082
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:03,910
sense

1083
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,550
and you know and this is one of those

1084
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:12,079
things like i get a lot of time out

1085
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:13,440
there when

1086
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,520
by myself if you will and i i'm able to

1087
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:17,520
think a lot about the stuff

1088
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,599
a lot about experiences i've had and

1089
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:21,440
then i'm constantly finding stuff out

1090
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:23,200
there i'm constantly

1091
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:24,960
just finding things that can't you know

1092
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:27,599
i don't know if they're a normal thing

1093
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:30,240
because of nature i i don't but you know

1094
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,599
i have a lot of time to reflect and

1095
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:32,880
think about some of the stuff when i'm

1096
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:35,040
out there do you bounce ideas off each

1097
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:36,640
other as well when on your downtime

1098
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:37,920
because obviously we i think a few of us

1099
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,280
know that you and travis do a lot of

1100
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:41,200
working out you know when you're off the

1101
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:44,560
clock let's say yeah i see that a lot

1102
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,560
is that a constant conversation as well

1103
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:48,720
yeah we you know we're just

1104
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:50,880
you know at the end of the day we're

1105
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,200
the core five of us we're we're friends

1106
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,880
yeah and we're you know when we look out

1107
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,000
for each other and we've had things

1108
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:58,640
happen and and we've grown together uh

1109
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:00,160
and you know we know what's going on in

1110
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,720
each other's lives and and we were

1111
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:04,240
you know those relationships

1112
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:06,240
relationships are growing

1113
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:07,359
you know and

1114
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,040
you know i'm the youngest one out there

1115
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,040
i'm 32 and

1116
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:13,200
i think you're a baby

1117
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:14,800
right

1118
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:15,839
and and

1119
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:18,000
but and tom i think is the closest one

1120
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:19,520
to me and asia and i think he's going to

1121
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,240
be

1122
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,560
uh hitting his 40s this year if i

1123
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,400
remember right or

1124
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:26,320
you know but all the all the other guys

1125
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:29,119
are old now

1126
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:30,000
right

1127
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,520
yeah and i get a little bit of crap for

1128
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:32,880
that whenever i bring that up you know

1129
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:33,839
but like

1130
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,400
um you know like uh i guess for me one

1131
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,320
of the personal experiences is

1132
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:40,640
or or kind of show you that is uh one of

1133
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:43,119
the guys he's the exact same age of as

1134
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:44,720
my dad would have been if he was still

1135
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:47,359
alive today you know so yeah and i kind

1136
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,720
of brought that up so i was like hey you

1137
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:50,640
know you realize that you're the exact

1138
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:52,720
same age as my dad if he was still alive

1139
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:53,680
you know

1140
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:55,760
and it was just kind of something like

1141
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,960
you know it's kind of a gut check a

1142
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,560
little bit for him and for me you know

1143
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,720
and so it's like we have these are you

1144
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:02,160
know obviously we have our relationships

1145
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:03,280
you know you know and there's a lot of

1146
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,960
stuff that people aren't seeing

1147
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,560
and you know and again like we're we

1148
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:09,040
have the tv show and and they and it's

1149
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:10,720
crazy what they can do and how they can

1150
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:13,280
portray people and things like that

1151
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,880
but you know again at the end of the day

1152
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:17,040
we all you know we care about each other

1153
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,480
and each other's families and stuff and

1154
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,160
we're and we're you know we are out

1155
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,320
there taking care of each other and you

1156
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:24,640
know when we take it seriously you know

1157
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:25,280
and

1158
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:27,839
yeah that's your only chance really yeah

1159
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,839
i feel like you know

1160
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:31,440
if you're together in it

1161
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:32,800
yeah

1162
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:37,520
things happen physically and harmful

1163
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:38,800
things have happened to people out there

1164
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:42,000
and we we do take that serious you know

1165
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:43,839
i'm sure i'm sure they've you know if

1166
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,040
you've been asked this question before

1167
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:47,520
but i'll ask it now um

1168
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:49,839
for you personally with your experiences

1169
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:50,720
there

1170
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,800
how has that affected you mentally

1171
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:55,200
psychologically when you're not near the

1172
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:56,400
ranch and when you're living your

1173
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:57,359
everyday

1174
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,839
life like how do you look at the world

1175
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,240
after being around all that

1176
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,400
you know it's actually been kind of it's

1177
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:06,400
kind of interesting so

1178
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:07,920
um it

1179
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:10,400
i feel like i've had this um interesting

1180
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,800
path set in front of me if you will

1181
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,400
um

1182
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:16,000
you know you know you asked me 10 years

1183
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:19,200
ago or where you think i'd be if this

1184
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:21,040
was not anywhere near where i thought

1185
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,160
right

1186
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:24,640
um but i kind of mentioned that when my

1187
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,920
dad passed away that was kind of one of

1188
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:27,359
the big points where i really started

1189
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:28,720
looking at things differently it was

1190
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:30,800
kind of that gut check moment where i

1191
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:33,599
had to think up look at myself

1192
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:34,640
and

1193
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:36,319
look at what kind of life i was living

1194
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:38,240
and i was like what's the point and

1195
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:39,440
that's when i really started delving

1196
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,680
into say some of these bigger questions

1197
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:43,359
that mankind's always looking for that

1198
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:46,000
answer right yeah and

1199
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:50,240
i i i will think and believe that i was

1200
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:51,920
able to get into some information and

1201
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,400
that's affected the way i look at things

1202
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:56,079
in this life

1203
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:58,400
and i i guess i've kind of gained more

1204
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:01,599
of an eternal perspective if you will

1205
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:02,560
and

1206
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:09,040
kind of fell in line it was really

1207
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,480
interesting and then and then we get to

1208
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,480
the ranch and it became and there was

1209
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,160
this opportunity that

1210
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,800
you know i you know why me

1211
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,040
there's 50 000 other people here there's

1212
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,280
in in the basin and you know and then

1213
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:23,359
there's all these other people

1214
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,520
yeah you know there's all these other

1215
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,280
millions of people who have heard of

1216
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:29,839
skinwalker ranch or somehow or may you

1217
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,599
know why me why am i the guy that's able

1218
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:33,599
to be out there in this position

1219
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:34,400
and

1220
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:36,480
i guess it comes back to

1221
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,720
i i think there's that certain there's

1222
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,640
this energy with our group you know and

1223
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:42,000
it's been interesting seeing other

1224
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:43,760
people that we've been able to bring in

1225
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,079
that are matching that energy and we can

1226
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:48,000
feel that and then there's other people

1227
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,000
that we bring out and we're like

1228
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,400
you just feel that you know it's yeah

1229
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,560
you know it's not what we were thinking

1230
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,560
or what we were expecting

1231
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,480
i spoke i've spoken to vinnie about this

1232
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,640
before it's like you you know when i

1233
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:02,400
first started this i didn't know anybody

1234
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,680
you know what i mean i just i just

1235
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,839
started it for my reasons you know

1236
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:07,119
and

1237
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:10,720
vinnie reached out to him because you

1238
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:14,000
got this it's like you felt this

1239
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,599
you you kind of knew what the person was

1240
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:17,520
about yeah you know with the with what

1241
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,800
they were posting and you know what

1242
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,200
their intentions were so you know

1243
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,359
exactly there's a connection and now you

1244
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:25,599
know you you we end up meeting all these

1245
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,920
people you're friends with

1246
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,520
an entire community you never thought

1247
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:31,200
you were going to be friends with and

1248
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:34,000
you all have this one thing in common

1249
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:35,839
and it's when you step you take a step

1250
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:38,560
back and you look outside of the box in

1251
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:39,280
you

1252
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:43,760
happening for a reason because

1253
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:46,800
everyone involved is now

1254
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,760
um

1255
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,599
putting something or giving something

1256
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:51,599
back to to to the community i guess you

1257
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,119
could say that is positive you

1258
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,599
understand it's like i feel like we're

1259
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:56,800
we've gotten

1260
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:00,480
phenomenon our understanding of all of

1261
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:02,319
this unknown stuff that for many years

1262
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:03,520
you know we always thought was just

1263
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,560
[\h__\h] and now we're to a point where

1264
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:08,400
people like little people like us that

1265
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,760
that never thought we would have been in

1266
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:11,680
this position are making more of a

1267
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,480
change than any major government or

1268
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:16,800
military or anything like that you know

1269
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,760
you know

1270
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:19,760
we're reaching people better than anyone

1271
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,000
else at any point in time before you

1272
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,079
know yeah and like it makes me think

1273
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,400
like kind of getting back to like yours

1274
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,640
or your your question there is

1275
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:30,640
when i'm off the ranch now

1276
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,560
now that i've been there for years

1277
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,400
i've had experiences where something

1278
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,680
happens

1279
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:37,920
and i i specifically get that feeling of

1280
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,960
hey when you coming back you know

1281
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:41,760
and

1282
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:44,960
it's like one of our jokes too is

1283
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:47,200
the the ranch is like this mafia where

1284
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,319
you can't get out you're never gonna

1285
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:53,270
we have these i i have things hap i've

1286
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:55,119
had things happen at my house i've i've

1287
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,560
witnessed stuff

1288
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:58,240
you know that

1289
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,079
i can't explain and and the only thing

1290
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,640
that makes sense is that some like we

1291
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,079
talked about this hitchhiker effect from

1292
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:06,160
the ranch and something followed me home

1293
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,000
or it was already there waiting for me i

1294
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:11,040
i don't know that is so bizarre i was

1295
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:11,839
like

1296
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:15,119
i'm going to ask him if he said any

1297
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:17,359
hitchhikers yeah

1298
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,960
and i get back and that's exactly what

1299
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,800
you're talking about yeah that's that's

1300
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:22,079
why that was one of the reasons why i

1301
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:23,119
asked the question because i wanted to

1302
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:23,839
see

1303
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:26,160
you know what happens outside how your

1304
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:28,640
life was affected outside yeah you know

1305
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,400
and that's the thing is i can tell you

1306
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:32,000
that there have been people who've come

1307
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:33,280
to the ranch who will never come back

1308
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,720
because they had such a powerful

1309
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:36,720
experience and it scared them scared

1310
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:37,839
lack for the better words scared the

1311
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:40,160
[\h__\h] out of them yeah um

1312
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:41,520
and then

1313
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:43,359
and and yeah people asked have asked you

1314
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,040
know tom specifically with what happened

1315
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:47,119
with his head why he keeps going back

1316
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:48,400
and that you know that's kind of where

1317
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,680
the joke came from is it's like the

1318
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:52,160
mafia can't get out um because it just

1319
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:53,520
follows you home

1320
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:54,480
and

1321
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,319
our attitude as a group is

1322
00:45:01,270 --> 00:45:00,079
we want to know what's going on why this

1323
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:01,280
is happening

1324
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:03,040
especially when we have things like that

1325
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:04,560
happen

1326
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:05,839
because

1327
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:07,280
if it's going to affect other people we

1328
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:08,400
want to know if there's a way we can

1329
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:09,280
maybe

1330
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,240
help protect or stop it from happening

1331
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,240
and or stop these negative things from

1332
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,000
happening if you will

1333
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:17,680
i'm not going to say that we're going to

1334
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:19,839
be able to do that who knows you know

1335
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:21,839
there's so many unknowns out here in it

1336
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:24,319
and that's what's crazy

1337
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:27,680
and and yeah so it and as well

1338
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:29,760
drive equipment it'll drive everything

1339
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:33,280
ever bring an exorcist by no and i don't

1340
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:34,560
think that's

1341
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:35,760
i don't know if that's something that

1342
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:38,319
we'd we'd look at because because again

1343
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,920
like we're trying to

1344
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:41,440
with the approach that we're having with

1345
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,440
the ranch we are trying to keep it more

1346
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:45,359
in that scientific

1347
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:47,200
sure viewpoint you know you don't have

1348
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,270
i guess uh to my knowledge

1349
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,960
there we haven't had anything like that

1350
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,720
happen though sure just curious am i

1351
00:46:01,750 --> 00:46:00,240
right in saying that a lot of the data

1352
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:01,760
going forward is going to start coming

1353
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,160
out on a more public front through the

1354
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:07,040
official website and things like that um

1355
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:07,760
i

1356
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:11,359
and that's always been the plan as we

1357
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:13,359
want as much information out there as we

1358
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,720
can um

1359
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:16,400
you know say like eric and travis

1360
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:18,400
specifically like they have mounds of

1361
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,480
data yeah and eric has done um he i know

1362
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,960
he did one study back in 2016 where i

1363
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:27,040
can't remember however many pages it was

1364
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,880
but he he brought forth a lot of really

1365
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:30,720
cool information

1366
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,800
and i don't know where that's at or

1367
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:35,119
where that information is at currently

1368
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,800
but that is something that i know that's

1369
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:38,480
one of the big conversations is how can

1370
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,599
we get

1371
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,680
the most amount of information out there

1372
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:43,440
and should really show people what we're

1373
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:44,800
what we're doing

1374
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,160
um and again like that was a

1375
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:48,560
conversation even before the show it was

1376
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,400
even a uh

1377
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,160
you know an idea

1378
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,079
because again that was kind of uh that

1379
00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:56,000
was somebody that just happened to send

1380
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,599
the right email or

1381
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,280
was able to make the right connection

1382
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,520
was with somebody on the team and and it

1383
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,880
moved from there

1384
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,440
uh that wasn't that was never a goal and

1385
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,119
i you know and i can tell that i can

1386
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,200
tell you that you know i've seen some

1387
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,119
allegations that brandon's made all this

1388
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:13,359
money i i can tell you that he hasn't

1389
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,839
he he hasn't taken a penny from the tv

1390
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:17,760
show you know he doesn't need to he's a

1391
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:20,400
very successful real estate agent

1392
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,240
you know and that's and i think that's

1393
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,720
one of the things is that's brandon is a

1394
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:25,760
really

1395
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,040
um

1396
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,200
and i've been around him enough to know

1397
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:33,839
that you know he wants to show

1398
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,319
information and be truthful and things

1399
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:38,079
like that and that's what we are trying

1400
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:39,280
to do that

1401
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,800
yeah he does he does he does go out of

1402
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:42,559
his way to

1403
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,440
um

1404
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,599
talk on social media as well and answer

1405
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,680
questions yeah and i must say always in

1406
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:50,000
a very eloquent way as well even against

1407
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,720
the

1408
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:52,880
harshest of trolls shall we say he's

1409
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:56,240
he's very very uh reserved and

1410
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:58,079
doesn't it's his confidence

1411
00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:59,760
yeah it is but you know he doesn't owe

1412
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,599
anyone anything can and the few times he

1413
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,520
has alluded to the fact that they are

1414
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,040
going to try and release data in the

1415
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:07,520
future like fair play you know he

1416
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,800
doesn't owe it to anyone but he's

1417
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:10,400
willing to be transparent and that says

1418
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,240
a lot yeah and and you know and that's

1419
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,240
the big thing is this is

1420
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:16,000
private property essentially and and

1421
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:17,760
brandon's the owner and

1422
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:19,280
we're all out there trying to fulfill a

1423
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,680
role in and brett you know and we love

1424
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,839
and respect brandon and

1425
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,240
you know i do anything for him

1426
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,920
because you show me that that's the kind

1427
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:29,440
of he's the kind of guy i like being

1428
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:31,040
around because of his standards and

1429
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:32,960
because of who he is

1430
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:35,200
um and that's goes for the rest of the

1431
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,720
team too i've

1432
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,160
you know i've spent enough time with

1433
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,000
these guys and have gone through

1434
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,920
you know like travis and i saw

1435
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,520
travis and i saw something i can't

1436
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:45,040
explain

1437
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,240
you know

1438
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:48,640
and the only reason we were we're so

1439
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,920
willing to talk about that is because

1440
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:51,359
both of us saw it

1441
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,079
yeah

1442
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:54,480
you know and and and that's powerful

1443
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,440
that

1444
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:57,280
i was with another individual of his

1445
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:58,880
caliber that saw this and we were both

1446
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:01,359
like holy crap

1447
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,400
and

1448
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:04,079
there's other things that we're willing

1449
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,359
to talk about because we do have the

1450
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:08,079
evidence there and it is hard

1451
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:09,760
talking about some other things that

1452
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,880
we've had happen out there because

1453
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,800
there's no evidence there's no it was

1454
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:14,480
you know like tom was by himself i was

1455
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,200
by myself eric was by himself yeah you

1456
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,680
know that that is it's hard to talk

1457
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:22,079
about experiences in that realm because

1458
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:23,920
people are like oh you know they

1459
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:25,040
we don't want people think we're just

1460
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:26,160
trying to make something up you know

1461
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,599
just to sure

1462
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:29,040
one thing that really stood out for me

1463
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,200
was towards the end it might have been

1464
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:32,960
at the end of the last season was the

1465
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,359
helicopter incident yeah have you have

1466
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:37,599
you been on the helicopter at all yes i

1467
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,440
i have been on the helicopter before i

1468
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,119
have and i you know i was on a

1469
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,880
helicopter in the military at one point

1470
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,240
and things like that i've been around

1471
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:47,119
them and again we use helicopter assets

1472
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:49,599
in law enforcement lot as well i'm i

1473
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:51,119
haven't seen anything like that and to

1474
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:53,440
my knowledge none of the pilots that i

1475
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,280
know have experienced anything like that

1476
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,720
would you mind just talking us through

1477
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:58,160
it briefly for anyone that may not be

1478
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,160
aware of what actually happened yeah so

1479
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,079
one of our experiments is

1480
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:04,160
um we have the triangle area on the

1481
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:07,440
ranch and one of the theories is and one

1482
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:14,309
is um

1483
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,720
there's an area a thousand feet to five

1484
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,960
thousand feet above the ranch

1485
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:20,319
that

1486
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:23,760
there and one of the ideas was to have

1487
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,000
the helicopter go through and fly

1488
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:28,880
through and do like a push broom pattern

1489
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:32,160
or or do a cyclical pattern through this

1490
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,680
area and see what kind of readings and

1491
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:35,359
stuff that we could get

1492
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,359
and essentially what happened is there's

1493
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:39,520
this piece of equipment on the the

1494
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,720
helicopter

1495
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:43,280
that you you

1496
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,720
for lack of a better word you're you're

1497
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,800
putting your your life and your safety

1498
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:48,800
in on this you're you're relying on this

1499
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,559
piece of equipment because at a certain

1500
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,559
level i think it's a thousand feet it's

1501
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,480
supposed to pick up

1502
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,960
where the where any eye or any objects

1503
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,559
are below you

1504
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,720
and when they're 5 000 feet above well i

1505
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,480
think they're actually like 4 800 feet

1506
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,359
they they didn't really quite hit 5 000

1507
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:07,599
as they were heading to that apex of

1508
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,839
5000 feet there was an

1509
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:11,040
object

1510
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:12,640
that was picked up

1511
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:14,800
underneath the helicopter and i think

1512
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:17,680
the closest it got was 38 feet

1513
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:20,880
wow um and and what what people really

1514
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:23,359
didn't see in the television show is

1515
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:25,520
cameron what started flying pretty

1516
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:28,160
aggressively he was doing all sorts of

1517
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:30,559
crazy maneuvers trying to get away

1518
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,720
potentially away from whatever this was

1519
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,040
and it stayed with him the whole time

1520
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:37,520
wow and it was going anywhere from 38 to

1521
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:42,309
yeah you know it was and there was

1522
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:43,680
nothing there obviously we were looking

1523
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:45,119
there and you know

1524
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:47,119
some of the cameras from that were

1525
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,520
attached let uh to the helicopter itself

1526
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:51,359
for showing some things

1527
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:52,640
um

1528
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,960
and at one point there was a weird

1529
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,960
um

1530
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:59,040
like shimmering if you will from one of

1531
00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:00,640
the camera angles and i

1532
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,559
and what that was is we have this camera

1533
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,400
that was a circular

1534
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,480
and and that shimmering or whatever is

1535
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:08,000
where the camera was coming back in on

1536
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:09,119
itself

1537
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:11,280
so there are things that

1538
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,240
you know

1539
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:14,800
we can account for but this object

1540
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:17,440
underneath the helicopter we couldn't

1541
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:19,520
and you know we had everybody was on the

1542
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,640
ground looking up at the scene we

1543
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:22,319
couldn't see anything

1544
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,400
and this is cameron brandon's brother on

1545
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,319
my right who's a very experienced i

1546
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,720
don't have any can you guys

1547
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:30,079
hear anybody

1548
00:52:38,650 --> 00:52:30,880
oh

1549
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:39,100
[Music]

1550
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:45,589
if you guys can hear me i can't hear you

1551
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:46,720
guys

1552
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:49,520
my screen just went black

1553
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:56,390
[\h__\h] skin walker after your ass

1554
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:58,880
any better

1555
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,640
no can you guys hear me

1556
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:02,960
yeah i can hear you you can hear me i i

1557
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,119
still can't hear you guys this is weird

1558
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:07,200
refresh your browser maybe

1559
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,680
yeah let me refresh google yeah let me

1560
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:11,760
see if i can come back in

1561
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,440
let me go out and see if i can oh man

1562
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,599
the curse of skinwalker how does that

1563
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,280
make you good like how does that make

1564
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:22,079
you feel like something like this exists

1565
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,520
on our country

1566
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:25,280
and it's so

1567
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,880
bizarre with no seemingly you know not a

1568
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,319
clear answer

1569
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:33,119
but there's obviously something there

1570
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:34,559
like putting the context of you and your

1571
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:36,000
life in your place in this world like

1572
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:39,599
how does that make you feel you know

1573
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:41,200
i don't know man

1574
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,800
like i was saying i think earlier on

1575
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:44,480
it's one of these

1576
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,400
topics within ufology that's on the

1577
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,640
outskirts that i still feel connected to

1578
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:50,880
can you hear us yeah there you are

1579
00:53:52,420 --> 00:53:51,599
nice

1580
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,430
that was so weird

1581
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:54,400
[Laughter]

1582
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:57,040
no your face

1583
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,280
your face went like completely pale and

1584
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:01,040
then came back to color

1585
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:02,400
yeah like

1586
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:05,680
i'm serious if you as soon as i started

1587
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,040
yeah as soon as i started talking about

1588
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:09,520
this my all your guys's screens went

1589
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:10,720
black and

1590
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:12,880
i was like what the heck's going on like

1591
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,480
it was

1592
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:16,400
i don't know maybe maybe it's the ranch

1593
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,990
okay so okay so i'm glad you're back in

1594
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:23,200
that

1595
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:27,680
sean just asked how we felt about it and

1596
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:28,800
i was just saying this is one of the

1597
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,880
topics within ufology and that that is

1598
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:33,359
slightly on the outskirts but i still

1599
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,760
feel connected to it i can't let it go

1600
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:37,200
you know it's

1601
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:39,200
you know through my nuts and bolts past

1602
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,559
i've become more open to the

1603
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,880
consciousness and other aspects but

1604
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,640
skinwalker with

1605
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,880
you know regards to the cryptids and all

1606
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:48,720
the other kind of legends through the

1607
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,359
the utes and that i can't seem to let it

1608
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:53,520
go i you know it really draws me in and

1609
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,760
it has them for years now so

1610
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:57,359
yeah it's it's it's incredible it's a

1611
00:55:01,030 --> 00:55:00,079
magnet almost right yeah oh absolutely

1612
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:01,040
yeah

1613
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:04,319
there's so many people who've had

1614
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:06,480
experiences like that that you know we

1615
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,240
have people in the community come up and

1616
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:10,640
these are people who are businessmen

1617
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:11,520
these are

1618
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,280
people who would you would never think

1619
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:15,839
would be involved in anything like this

1620
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,440
you know and and there's been

1621
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:19,680
astigmatism with ufos and things like

1622
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:22,079
that you know especially for the last 50

1623
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,040
years and

1624
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,359
and i i and you know that is where

1625
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:27,359
there's people need to understand like

1626
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:29,200
what eric and travis are really laying

1627
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,640
on the line here with their reputations

1628
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,240
and what they're you know they're

1629
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:34,400
willing to delve into this kind of in

1630
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:36,799
into this realm if you will

1631
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:39,440
but again we're having so many people

1632
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:40,319
that

1633
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:42,079
have had experiences and it's not just

1634
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,520
in the basin that you know how many

1635
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:45,200
people worldwide are saying they're

1636
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,119
they've had something happen and

1637
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:49,440
yeah and these are people who a lot of

1638
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:50,720
times

1639
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:53,200
like we we

1640
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:54,240
people know when someone's getting

1641
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:56,480
[\h__\h] right or like they're when

1642
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,079
they're trying to

1643
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,160
get give you a little bit more than what

1644
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:02,559
really happened but something may have

1645
00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:04,720
actually happened but you know that

1646
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,559
they're kind of

1647
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:08,240
embellishing everybody's growing a

1648
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:10,079
little bit more guys

1649
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:11,359
i don't mean to cut this i'm gonna have

1650
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:12,880
to come right back because i'm getting a

1651
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:14,319
call from uh

1652
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,119
oh

1653
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:16,960
dude i'm getting an important phone call

1654
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:18,970
we'll look out for you

1655
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,119
[Laughter]

1656
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,280
so yeah and so it's

1657
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:25,440
yeah and that's where like me

1658
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:26,960
and

1659
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:29,040
how i look at it is like this is

1660
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:31,200
whenever i tell a story that i've had

1661
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:33,119
happen out there i i really try and

1662
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:34,880
focus on

1663
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:35,920
um

1664
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:38,559
what happened and i and i try and lay it

1665
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:40,960
out as as as much as like say a

1666
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,920
testimony in court as i can just because

1667
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:46,240
i'm i'm not going to embellish it i'm

1668
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:49,119
just telling you what i saw how i saw it

1669
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,599
and and go from there and

1670
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,160
you know i don't i don't appreciate when

1671
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,319
stories grow because

1672
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,400
i think it takes away it does it muddies

1673
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,880
the waters and i think me personally and

1674
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,240
i'm sure sean as well we really

1675
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:04,559
appreciate seeing it

1676
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,319
seeing your honesty and your openness i

1677
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:08,160
hope the chat does and this is why i

1678
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,520
would like you know wanted to speak to

1679
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,319
you again you know just to see the real

1680
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:14,880
human beings behind this you know

1681
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:16,880
just another person

1682
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:20,160
who has no reason to lie or embellish

1683
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:23,359
for any gain you know yeah i'm you know

1684
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:24,960
kind of hitting back on like you know

1685
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:28,000
i've i've seen the worse than the best

1686
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,720
of a lot of people you know and

1687
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:32,400
when you kind of go through and this is

1688
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:33,920
where

1689
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:35,680
law enforcement we can get crass because

1690
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:37,839
we were around so much

1691
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:40,000
horrible things you know hurting and

1692
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:41,520
we're seeing what people are doing to

1693
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,000
each other and yeah

1694
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:45,920
well you you can start hating people

1695
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,960
really easily um yeah but just because

1696
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,799
you can start you you go in on some of

1697
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:52,319
this stuff and you just see things and

1698
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,640
you start going what what's

1699
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:56,240
it's not worth

1700
00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:59,040
who i am as a person to embellish things

1701
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:00,160
or

1702
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,000
grandiose and than what it was you know

1703
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:06,960
and yeah i can get excited about stuff

1704
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:10,000
and and makes me think but i'm not one

1705
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:11,599
that's going to be so flamboyant about

1706
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:13,680
how things happen just because

1707
00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:14,799
again when

1708
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:17,359
i i guess that's not what really gets me

1709
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:20,640
fired up as like running in on

1710
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:24,000
you know a crazy call where someone's

1711
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,359
life's in danger and you're trying to

1712
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:27,440
make a difference you know yeah and

1713
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:29,040
that's tempered me a little bit on some

1714
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,720
stuff out there and i appreciate that

1715
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,160
and then i've also had stuff out there

1716
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:34,240
that i've gone like holy crap and this

1717
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:35,599
is nuts

1718
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:37,520
and that's tempered me and how i'm able

1719
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:39,200
to view things like when i first

1720
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:40,880
experienced

1721
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,920
um

1722
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:43,680
one of my first big experiences on the

1723
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:45,040
ranch

1724
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,839
uh

1725
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:47,680
really helped me kind of level out you

1726
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,040
know and go okay i need to be as

1727
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:51,520
objective and and that training kicks in

1728
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,280
you know where i need to be as objective

1729
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,839
and try and pick up as many details as i

1730
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,839
can get that many you need to get that

1731
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:59,920
kind of training

1732
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:01,359
right

1733
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:03,040
and and it's like you know the first

1734
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,640
couple times i've had something happen i

1735
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,319
was a little i was more caught up and

1736
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:08,079
going oh my gosh like and trying to

1737
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:10,880
comprehend it and and do the work happen

1738
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:12,880
it's easier for me to remain in that

1739
00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:15,520
state where i can go okay i need to

1740
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:17,599
observe and see what else may be going

1741
00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:18,880
on because i could have something

1742
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:20,559
happening over here and something's

1743
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:22,000
going on behind me that one that we'd

1744
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,839
never know so i'm always looking around

1745
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,119
i'm always

1746
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:26,960
you know trying to absorb as much as i

1747
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:29,200
can and just point out things that are

1748
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:30,839
outside the norm if you

1749
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:33,440
will that's pretty interesting i think

1750
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,200
what people should realize and i hope

1751
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:37,280
i'm right and saying is this

1752
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:40,240
you are security but you are involved

1753
00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:42,559
and so much more on the ranch as well

1754
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:43,520
aren't you

1755
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:44,960
yeah you know because people i don't

1756
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:46,160
want people to turn around and go well

1757
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:47,760
you spoke to a security guy kind of what

1758
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:49,119
does he know because

1759
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:51,040
i i think you know i've i've said spoon

1760
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:52,720
to before and it's like you said it more

1761
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:54,319
of a group of friends who have roles

1762
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:55,520
within

1763
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:57,280
so yeah

1764
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:58,799
you know um

1765
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:01,520
again when everyone's not there uh

1766
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,880
because one of the times that most

1767
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,319
people's on the ranch is when we're

1768
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,559
doing our filming but we're always doing

1769
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:08,640
some uh we're always doing experiments

1770
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:10,319
we are always someone is always at the

1771
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:11,200
ranch

1772
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:13,280
uh it seems like and and then also on

1773
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:14,960
top of that like we've said is how are

1774
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,640
we affecting experiments how are we

1775
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,240
affecting the results that we're getting

1776
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:20,000
out there as as because if we're out

1777
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,920
there we're affecting it somehow and so

1778
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:24,000
there are times

1779
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,160
yeah exactly and

1780
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:29,200
we i have access to all the to a lot of

1781
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:31,200
the camera assets on my on my phone i

1782
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,079
can be

1783
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:34,720
uh visiting my family you know in a

1784
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:36,559
different state and pull up my the

1785
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,799
security cameras and see what's going on

1786
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:40,240
um and

1787
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,640
you know and one man can't do everything

1788
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:44,559
and so i you know and so i'm helping

1789
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:46,000
eric in a lot of

1790
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,680
uh going through the video footage and

1791
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:49,680
things like that and i'm helping in

1792
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,480
other ways and and tom he's he's taken

1793
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:54,000
on different roles he'll go through

1794
01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:56,559
camera footage you know like we're all

1795
01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:58,400
doing things and we're we're all a part

1796
01:01:02,950 --> 01:00:59,920
of this and we're all helping out you

1797
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:02,960
know if there's a repair on the ranch

1798
01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:05,200
bryant is very handy like he's a penny

1799
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:07,200
man too he'll go out and he'll build

1800
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:09,280
something that to help fix something on

1801
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:10,960
the ranch you know like we we're all we

1802
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:12,160
all have these different skills and

1803
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:13,280
these different assets and we're all

1804
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:14,559
bringing these to the table we're not

1805
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:15,359
just

1806
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,280
the front gate twiddling my thumbs like

1807
01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:21,280
taking a nap you know just

1808
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:24,160
twirling the gun on your finger right

1809
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:24,960
yeah

1810
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:26,799
give a quick shout out to lara

1811
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:28,480
sunderland bennett thank you so much for

1812
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:30,640
the super chat says thank you gentlemen

1813
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:32,720
for such a great discussion thank you

1814
01:01:36,789 --> 01:01:35,359
we're glad that you appreciate it um

1815
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:36,799
one thing i would like to talk about

1816
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,280
caleb is phenomicon which happened a

1817
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:41,280
couple of weekends ago can you tell us

1818
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:43,920
about that so i wasn't as involved as

1819
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:46,480
some of the other guys uh i did partake

1820
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:47,359
in the

1821
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:48,880
the panel that we had there and that was

1822
01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:50,000
really fun

1823
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:52,160
uh and we you know we were just asking

1824
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:53,680
open questions like this where people

1825
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,039
would ask this question then we as a

1826
01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:57,440
team would answer it and you know we it

1827
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,359
was i from what i could see it was very

1828
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,119
successful and we're hoping to do it

1829
01:02:04,870 --> 01:02:03,520
again um there was a lot of different

1830
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:04,880
speakers and a lot of different things

1831
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:06,640
there and i've you know and it's one of

1832
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,599
the things that we're trying to show

1833
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:09,520
that the basin has a lot to offer yeah

1834
01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:10,720
um

1835
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:12,319
outside of the ranch like there's a lot

1836
01:02:16,309 --> 01:02:14,160
of areas out here and from what i've

1837
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,319
heard that it's a lot of people want to

1838
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,240
come back and we're we're excited to

1839
01:02:21,510 --> 01:02:20,400
hopefully do that again and it was

1840
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:21,520
really fun to

1841
01:02:24,230 --> 01:02:22,960
be a part of that and

1842
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:24,240
there's a lot of great people out there

1843
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:25,839
that we were able to meet

1844
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,280
yeah it seems like a very community

1845
01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:29,440
driven area as well where everyone comes

1846
01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:30,480
together

1847
01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:32,720
i'm a good friend of mine carl viber i

1848
01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:34,160
think you probably are speaking to

1849
01:02:37,510 --> 01:02:36,319
tomorrow if i'm right uh i think i'm

1850
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,520
actually speaking with him at six

1851
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:39,520
tonight so oh is it tonight okay my

1852
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,599
apologies yeah crazy night

1853
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:43,119
such a good guy but i don't know i'd

1854
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:45,119
love to talk to you as well on my show

1855
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:47,200
oh yeah i gotta throw that out there oh

1856
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:49,920
yeah i'd be more than willing to talk to

1857
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:51,599
you and get to know you better sean so

1858
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:52,559
sweet

1859
01:02:56,470 --> 01:02:54,960
yeah yeah so what i got from some videos

1860
01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:56,480
kyle's already put out that it's it's

1861
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:58,000
just such a beautiful place the

1862
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:00,480
community are very open and

1863
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:03,119
yeah it's a good place skin walker ranch

1864
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:05,920
or not it's just you know awesome

1865
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:07,839
yeah it's you know we have there's a lot

1866
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:09,680
of diversity in the the basin if you

1867
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:11,520
will and i think we i think i touched on

1868
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:12,880
this a little bit and last time we

1869
01:03:17,029 --> 01:03:14,559
talked you know there's so many other

1870
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:17,039
things out here yeah you have all these

1871
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:17,839
uh

1872
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,359
roads gold mine

1873
01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:22,960
there's a lot of gold stories there's a

1874
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:25,280
lot of stories with the butch cassidy

1875
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:26,880
and the sundance kid this was the area

1876
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:29,200
that they were running around

1877
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:31,280
you have uh stories of buffalo soldiers

1878
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,799
you you have a buffalo soldiers are

1879
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:34,720
buried there yeah there's there's all

1880
01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:37,599
this awesome american west

1881
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:40,079
uh history out here you know

1882
01:03:43,270 --> 01:03:42,000
and it's and again that's kind of

1883
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,280
something that i grew up with up in

1884
01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:45,839
southeast idaho there's a lot of

1885
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,160
western and a lot of stories up in these

1886
01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:50,880
areas especially like the mining and

1887
01:03:55,270 --> 01:03:53,280
uh the mining towns and and the ghost

1888
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:55,280
towns up in idaho and stuff and that's a

1889
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:57,200
lot down here too is the american west

1890
01:04:01,510 --> 01:03:59,039
is so vibrant in so much history that

1891
01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:01,520
happened you know in such a short amount

1892
01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:04,079
of time really yeah yeah and so there's

1893
01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:07,039
a lot of stuff out here not just the the

1894
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:08,559
ufo and

1895
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:10,400
you know

1896
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:12,000
well whatever's behind it all could be

1897
01:04:14,470 --> 01:04:13,520
the reason there's a lot of stuff out

1898
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:14,480
there

1899
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:15,599
all right

1900
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:18,079
you know and you have a lot of dinosaur

1901
01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:19,440
stuff on the other side of the vernal

1902
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:21,440
that's one of the big things that has

1903
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:22,880
driven a lot of people here is there's

1904
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:27,359
no leaving dinosaurs i've never seen one

1905
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:28,640
but they've been that's one of the hot

1906
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:31,039
spots isn't it for many decades and some

1907
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:33,920
of the best full skeleton digs have come

1908
01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:36,240
from that area if i'm right uh i believe

1909
01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:37,760
they have a the dinosaur national

1910
01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:39,680
monument which i i haven't been there

1911
01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:42,480
personally sorry of anybody from this

1912
01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:44,319
area that's watching this

1913
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:45,920
but uh my family have told me that

1914
01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:47,359
there's an area where you can walk down

1915
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:48,880
and there's they're just sticking out of

1916
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:50,960
the wall all these bones and wow all

1917
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:53,039
this stuff and it's it's pretty pretty

1918
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:55,839
cool and there's an area where they have

1919
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:58,240
the the the footprints where these

1920
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,520
dinosaurs were walking through and

1921
01:05:03,109 --> 01:05:01,280
they're still there in the

1922
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:03,119
in the rock and stuff it's and they're

1923
01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:05,200
very well defined and you you know

1924
01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:07,359
you're not mistaken what those are so

1925
01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:08,799
wow

1926
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:11,039
mind-blowing dinosaurs still

1927
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:13,599
yeah there's a lot of cool stuff

1928
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:15,520
so wow

1929
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:17,760
yeah incredible about it well i mean we

1930
01:05:20,549 --> 01:05:18,960
could keep going if there's anything you

1931
01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:20,559
want to touch upon let's just keep going

1932
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:22,079
i'm all good for time oh here's a

1933
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:27,670
are you scared of digging at skinwalker

1934
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:29,760
or is that just dragon

1935
01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:31,760
oh that's just dragon

1936
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:33,760
no

1937
01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:36,000
we we inherited this narrative right

1938
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:36,960
where

1939
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:38,880
bad things happen when we when we dig

1940
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:40,240
and there has been a correlation of

1941
01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:41,920
things happening when we've dug on the

1942
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:45,200
ranch um am i and i can say that most of

1943
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:47,520
our team

1944
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:50,640
find out what's going on and digging is

1945
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:52,720
one of those things and and i know

1946
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:54,319
dragon gets a lot of

1947
01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:55,359
uh

1948
01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:00,720
personal about how he feels about our

1949
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:03,119
safety and and us as a team you know he

1950
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:04,640
cares deeply for us and he doesn't want

1951
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:07,280
anything to happen um and so

1952
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:10,079
you know he's he is one of our voices of

1953
01:06:13,829 --> 01:06:11,760
caution a lot of time and

1954
01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:13,839
and that's fine um

1955
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:15,760
and i appreciate it

1956
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:18,559
but uh i can tell you that that's

1957
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:20,480
he he's more than okay with us digging

1958
01:06:22,710 --> 01:06:21,359
and

1959
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:22,720
going out as long as we're doing it

1960
01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:24,960
safely you know and and we're we're

1961
01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:26,480
trying to cover as

1962
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:28,559
much of our bases as we can

1963
01:06:33,029 --> 01:06:29,920
yeah do you

1964
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:33,039
do you feel like um the activity

1965
01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:33,839
uh

1966
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:37,200
ever mirrors or reflects your

1967
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:39,280
attitudes like if you're feeling down or

1968
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:40,720
you're feeling happy

1969
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:43,520
or sad or whatever or celebratory do you

1970
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:45,359
ever get a reflection there from the

1971
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:46,799
activity

1972
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:47,839
um

1973
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:49,440
that is actually something we have

1974
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:51,760
talked about a lot before and

1975
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:54,400
we kind of feel as a consensus that the

1976
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:55,839
ranch is a

1977
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:58,400
amplifies what you're feeling

1978
01:07:03,029 --> 01:06:59,280
um

1979
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:03,039
and so total gas by the way yeah so we

1980
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:04,240
that is something that we've talked

1981
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:06,160
about and and again how do we quantify

1982
01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:07,680
that how do we show that

1983
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:10,880
um yeah and you know a

1984
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:11,680
stress

1985
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:14,079
on you and then what the activity does i

1986
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:15,280
don't know

1987
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:19,200
right um so and that's where we

1988
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:21,280
you feel that more internally if if you

1989
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:23,440
will you know like nine out of ten you

1990
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:24,400
know

1991
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:26,319
99.9 percent of time you go out to the

1992
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:30,000
ranch it feels um serene it's a it's a

1993
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:31,920
really gorgeous piece of property with

1994
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:34,319
the the especially in the

1995
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:36,640
the area that you're seeing most of with

1996
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:38,880
the trees and the fields and the ditch

1997
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,559
and all that stuff it's all green and

1998
01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:42,240
then you have the mesa right there and a

1999
01:07:46,069 --> 01:07:44,319
lot of times you know it's just any it's

2000
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:46,079
just like any other ranch

2001
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:48,160
really in that in that sense like a

2002
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:51,280
blank canvas almost yeah oh yeah and you

2003
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:53,440
know you could you know if you know

2004
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:55,280
chris bartel and he was one of the old

2005
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:57,200
security guards from bigelow's days he's

2006
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,039
posted a lot of photographs of his time

2007
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,200
when he was beautiful stuff oh yeah and

2008
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:03,200
he's has such an eye for it

2009
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:05,440
um that's such a he's a really good

2010
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:07,599
friend of mine i've been able to grow

2011
01:08:11,589 --> 01:08:08,880
that relationship with them over the

2012
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:11,599
last couple years and he's you know and

2013
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:13,200
and he's i think he's really doing a

2014
01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:15,039
good job of showing the ranch in that

2015
01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:17,600
light but then again you know we do have

2016
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:20,000
these things happening out there

2017
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,679
and

2018
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:23,520
both of us are like

2019
01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:25,600
at night we both hate going to homestead

2020
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:27,920
three like the one you people have never

2021
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:29,279
really seen that one but for whatever

2022
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:30,960
reason that's where like

2023
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:33,120
i think i'm as brave as the next guy but

2024
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:34,799
i hate going to homestead three at night

2025
01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:37,679
by myself like i hate i if you start

2026
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:39,440
getting this feel with this the weird

2027
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:41,440
vibes and the the weird

2028
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:42,799
like i'm being watched feeling over

2029
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:44,319
there tonight

2030
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:45,600
yeah

2031
01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:46,960
uh

2032
01:08:52,870 --> 01:08:50,159
i would love to perform um a couple of

2033
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:52,880
my songs at skinwalker ranch

2034
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:54,319
i'm serious i think you get a lot of

2035
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:56,319
reaction it's very emotional

2036
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:58,159
it is it's incredible stuff it's

2037
01:09:01,749 --> 01:09:00,560
absolutely incredible

2038
01:09:03,669 --> 01:09:01,759
yeah

2039
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:03,679
that's outside of my realm i've seen if

2040
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:06,000
i can do that

2041
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:09,600
if it's meant to be it'll be right right

2042
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,400
so okay caleb can you without

2043
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,560
us asking too much if you confirm that

2044
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:17,040
season three is going ahead and we

2045
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:19,120
should expect to see more you know in

2046
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:21,120
the last year or two

2047
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:21,920
i

2048
01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:29,120
that

2049
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:30,159
sure

2050
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:32,319
so no that's cool it's just i think i've

2051
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:34,960
heard a few people ask the question and

2052
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:36,719
you know along with the things i've seen

2053
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:39,040
from brandon as far as data eventually

2054
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:40,880
appearing on the website i think

2055
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:42,640
personally i'm

2056
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,799
you know really looking forward to

2057
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:46,560
seeing the continuation of what is

2058
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,640
discovered and researched and things

2059
01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:50,640
like that on the ranch so

2060
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:53,120
yeah that's awesome um sean anything

2061
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:55,600
anything before we wrap this up do you

2062
01:10:01,750 --> 01:09:58,400
feel the the search for data is almost a

2063
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,760
distraction from focusing on self and

2064
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:03,600
what the real truth is which may be

2065
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,560
inside there that's a great question

2066
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:08,080
you know

2067
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:09,920
there's a lot of layers to that i think

2068
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,440
so i think there's a lot of data that

2069
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:13,440
we're getting outside if you will and

2070
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:15,199
and you're hitting it right on the head

2071
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:16,800
one on some of the discussions that we

2072
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:19,840
have with what is what is the real story

2073
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:21,760
you know what is if you will the real

2074
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:23,840
mystery or the real secret or

2075
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,960
what is it you know and we can't and i

2076
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:29,040
feel like sometimes we do overlook the

2077
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:31,600
human aspect of it

2078
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:34,159
but uh you know and that's kind of where

2079
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:35,199
um

2080
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,360
you're trying to prove it yeah

2081
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:39,600
and you know and eric's kind of he's

2082
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:41,600
told me that before he's like you know

2083
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:43,199
he he loves me being out there just

2084
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:45,280
because of the different experiences

2085
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:47,760
and and what i bring as say

2086
01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:49,840
the guy running in on these in on these

2087
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:51,199
law enforcement type calls and then i

2088
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:52,640
come out to the ranch

2089
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:55,040
and i'm noticing these same emotions and

2090
01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:56,640
these same

2091
01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:57,840
um

2092
01:11:02,229 --> 01:10:59,920
these same energies if you will that

2093
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:02,239
people are experiencing and and i'm

2094
01:11:06,149 --> 01:11:05,199
seeing that in other aspects and yeah

2095
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:06,159
and

2096
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:09,360
watching people we're we're studying

2097
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:11,520
people where you know we're watching

2098
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:12,880
people's habits we're seeing how they

2099
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,480
react we're seeing

2100
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:16,239
what they're doing and and you know this

2101
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:18,880
when someone's dip something happens and

2102
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:21,840
people's body language changes

2103
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:23,600
you know and we all have these and

2104
01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:24,800
everybody out there has different

2105
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,719
experiences and we're all bringing these

2106
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:27,920
different

2107
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:28,719
um

2108
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,520
life

2109
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,920
experiences to the to the ranch

2110
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:33,920
and you know the five of us could be all

2111
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:35,600
standing out there

2112
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:37,440
witness something and we all have a

2113
01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:39,040
different perspective of what it is and

2114
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:40,719
why it happened

2115
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:42,800
just like everything else right yeah

2116
01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:45,520
exactly everybody has their everyone has

2117
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:51,430
yeah sometimes i feel like because it

2118
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:53,520
seems like everybody has

2119
01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:55,840
uh their own unique you know just not

2120
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:58,080
you guys but everybody who has a like a

2121
01:12:01,590 --> 01:11:58,880
real

2122
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:01,600
encounter they all seem different in

2123
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:03,600
some way shape or form and the only

2124
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:05,920
thing i can say to that is that's

2125
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:08,960
just like us yeah and we're all

2126
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,000
different

2127
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:12,239
yeah doesn't that make sense yeah oh it

2128
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:14,159
makes absolute sense um one of the

2129
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:15,520
things that we actually tell people when

2130
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:16,880
they come to the ranch is the ranch

2131
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:19,280
reacts differently to people

2132
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:20,640
and so one of the biggest things is

2133
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:23,520
whenever we bring out new guests or or

2134
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:24,400
you know

2135
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:26,800
on or off the screen or whenever that's

2136
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,320
one of the things we tell them is the

2137
01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:30,000
ranch reacts differently

2138
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:32,320
so pay very close attention to yourself

2139
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:34,000
and to even your family over the next

2140
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:35,280
couple days and let us know if something

2141
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:37,679
happens because again we've you know we

2142
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:39,520
weren't like whenever anybody comes out

2143
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,440
we give them the safety brief we let

2144
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:43,199
them know what happens and what we've

2145
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:44,880
what we've had happen

2146
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:46,400
and where and we're very serious about

2147
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:47,679
that and again that's one of the things

2148
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:50,800
like i know brian gets a lot of uh grief

2149
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:52,880
for some of how he's portrayed

2150
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,120
but you know he again he and i take this

2151
01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:56,880
very seriously we've we've had injuries

2152
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:58,480
we've had things again this is a working

2153
01:13:01,910 --> 01:13:00,400
ranch like we you could have a name

2154
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:01,920
thing like you you'll be walking out and

2155
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:04,960
a cow kick ya and you know we there's

2156
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:06,880
things out there that can and do hurt

2157
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:09,840
people um and we do take that seriously

2158
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:12,080
and again the ranch reacts differently

2159
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:12,960
to

2160
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:29,199
from all the different people and maybe

2161
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:33,120
the right person will

2162
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:35,440
who knows yeah but it's like well let's

2163
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:38,080
keep trying this yeah newport new person

2164
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:39,920
yeah it's it's an experiment in and of

2165
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:41,760
itself and and you know that's where we

2166
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:43,920
and i i feel though that that's where

2167
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,560
we've kind of noticed that

2168
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,239
if we can feel that energy from people

2169
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:50,560
like we want to protect the ranch itself

2170
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:51,280
too

2171
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:53,920
you know like i said the in the earlier

2172
01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:57,520
um example like the ranch felt like

2173
01:14:01,590 --> 01:13:59,360
violation was where that came to my mind

2174
01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:01,600
yeah and i don't want

2175
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:02,880
that anywhere

2176
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:03,840
near

2177
01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:06,000
you know myself or anybody else you know

2178
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:09,040
you were powerful enough

2179
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:10,080
to

2180
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,520
get rid of that

2181
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:13,600
and you should feel some confidence

2182
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:16,400
there oh thanks thank you

2183
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:17,360
yeah

2184
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:22,640
it's been one that i've kind of felt

2185
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:24,000
like i've been a little bit more driven

2186
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:26,640
to talk about a little bit because

2187
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:28,640
that is something that's very serious in

2188
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:30,560
in people's lives and you know i'm

2189
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:32,239
seeing that there's

2190
01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:34,560
we need more uh

2191
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,360
i guess we we need to be fighting that a

2192
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,360
little bit more if you will

2193
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:41,520
yeah i'm with you definitely i'm with

2194
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:43,280
you as well man i really want to go out

2195
01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:45,600
there and have caleb

2196
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:47,679
usher me around the ranch you know

2197
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:49,040
oh you'd

2198
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:51,360
piss your pants and cry like i've just

2199
01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:52,640
got that awesome

2200
01:14:56,229 --> 01:14:54,840
good vibes man it's the good vibes you

2201
01:14:58,229 --> 01:14:56,239
know i wouldn't be that worried about

2202
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:58,239
the uh

2203
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,320
or anything oh okay maybe a little bit

2204
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:02,719
but yeah oh see oh okay i admitted then

2205
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:05,199
you said i'm good yeah i'm not gonna lie

2206
01:15:07,990 --> 01:15:06,480
i've been there's been times where i've

2207
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:08,000
been out there and i've been like

2208
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:09,600
i can't get off the ranch fast enough

2209
01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:11,280
because i'm going what the heck like i'm

2210
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:13,600
out of here like you do your thing i'm

2211
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:14,960
going home please

2212
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,880
leave me alone i'm sure that's more

2213
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realistic how i'd react to be fair i'm

2214
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:21,360
just uh playing up for the camera

2215
01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:23,199
you're a great dude caleb i could see it

2216
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:25,520
in your face you're genuine uh

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positive bright

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um

2219
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and yeah i can tell you're beautiful on

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the inside so i'm thankful that i got

2221
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:34,400
the chance to talk to you i was happy to

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i'm grateful i was able to speak with

2223
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:37,520
you guys and get to know you guys a

2224
01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:39,440
little bit more too thank you so much

2225
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,840
and we have to do it again in the future

2226
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,520
like just even if we talk about other

2227
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,640
things it'd be great to have you on

2228
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,120
another panel touching on any subject uh

2229
01:15:51,910 --> 01:15:49,520
like sean said you're a great soul great

2230
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:51,920
person thank you i hope you'd uh accept

2231
01:15:56,950 --> 01:15:54,640
an invite in the future oh i'd i'd be

2232
01:15:59,189 --> 01:15:56,960
happy to and i'd be honored too awesome

2233
01:16:02,390 --> 01:15:59,199
thank you so much caleb thank you sean

2234
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:02,400
andy joined us everyone in the chat uh

2235
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you can catch caleb later today on carl

2236
01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:07,600
vibes channel um so yeah more great

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01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:09,600
conversations but for now guys we'll